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== It's almost March! ==
==18th Anniversary and Business Meeting==
* Time to get together again. What are we in the mood for? Pizza? Quiet evening? Less live music, maybe? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 15:38, 26 February 2017 (PST)
* Save the date. I have booked [[Rojo]]'s side room for an 18th anniversary party and business meeting on the afternoon of Sunday, March 17, 2024 (St Patrick's Day) from 1:00 to 4:00. The agenda for the business meeting is "Time to Grow Up", and we will aim to draft an advisory committee which will take up the task of discussing the future of the website (succession plans, etc.) Anyone interested is invited to join us. More information to come. Feel free to contact me with questions, etc. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 10:05, 1 February 2024 (CST)
** I know I've been away for a while but as usual I'll swing by wherever you decide to do it. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] ([[User talk:Wheresdib|talk]]) 11:20, 27 February 2017 (PST)
** I have created an event page on Facebook. If you haven't been invited to interact with that page and would like to be, just let me know. Facebook interaction is by no means a requirement for actually coming to the party. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 14:43, 12 February 2024 (CST)
** I'm afraid I have plans the weekend March 18-19 and probably the following weekend. But I'm no longer as active as I was, either, so don't feel the need to plan around me. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 06:06, 1 March 2017 (PST)
*** Thank you to everyone who showed up. It was a surprisingly good turnout and very enjoyable. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 11:23, 19 March 2024 (CDT)
* Okay then. One night in the coming weeks I will stake out one of the larger tables at Cantina (Pepper Place) and provide chips, guacamole, and encouraging reflections on the state of the wiki to anyone who can stand to come sit with me. Let me know if a particular evening interests you. If not, I'll pick and let you know. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 06:59, 1 March 2017 (PST)


== Sayerton ==
===Remarks===
* You can find a copy of my remarks here: [[Bhamwiki talk:Messageboard/18th Anniversary notes]]. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 20:01, 18 March 2024 (CDT)


The McWane Center has  display of "quack medicines." A couple were from the Birmingham area, including one from [[Sayerton]]. It appears we don't currently have any information on this former community north of North Birmingham. Maybe [[User:Robert Matthews|Robert Matthews]] would consider researching it as they apparently (used to?) hold a town reunion in Gardendale? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 12:37, 19 January 2018 (PST)
===Advisory committee ===
* I've heard of Sayerton, but don't know much about it and have never researched it. If I have a chance to get by the Gardendale Historical Society museum sometime in the next few weeks, I'll see what I can find on it. [[User:Robert Matthews|Robert Matthews]] ([[User talk:Robert Matthews|talk]]) 13:44, 19 January 2018 (PST)
* As mentioned in my spoken notes, I do plan to convene an advisory committee or like body, using the names proferred in March (and any others who are interested). I expect to be sending out an email in the next week or so. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 16:33, 10 May 2024 (CDT)
 
== Birmingham Historical Society digital collection ==
 
FYI, select Birmingham Historical Society publications are being digitally archived at the Alabama Department of Archives & History[http://digital.archives.alabama.gov/cdm/search/collection/hgpub/field/creato/searchterm/Birmingham%20Historical%20Society/mode/exact]. (Or, as their newsletter puts it, [http://digital.archives.alabama.gov/ http://digital.archives.alabama.gov] > Alabama Genealogy and History Publications > Birmingham Historical Society.) --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 12:43, 19 January 2018 (PST)
* That's pretty awesome. I saw the notice in the newsletter, but hadn't checked it out yet. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 13:56, 19 January 2018 (PST)
 
== Costa & Head plans for 3rd Ave N & 19th St ==
I'm pretty sure I made a comment on a Talk page somewhere about Costa & Head's plans for blocking off streets at night around the old theater district.  But now I can't find it.  Can anyone help me out?  I have an addendum. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 05:57, 23 January 2018 (PST)
* [[Talk:Downtown Master Plan]] --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 06:33, 23 January 2018 (PST)
** Thank you! --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 05:26, 24 January 2018 (PST)
 
== Guess who's back? ==
 
That's right, it's me. I've accepted a different position with the same employer which should free up some time in my busy schedule. And I'm back downtown, so I'm excited to start filling in some gaps for all the new stores and restaurants that have popped up in the last almost 5 years. See you all soon! [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] ([[User talk:Wheresdib|talk]]) 12:59, 25 January 2018 (PST)
* [[File:Like.png|frameless|30px]] --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 13:20, 25 January 2018 (PST)
 
== Shoe Repair note ==
This is crazy. I keep looking for things on Bhamwiki I remember writing or reading and can't find them. Sometimes I spell it wrong ("Top Golf" instead of "TopGolf" [created a redirect]).  Sometimes I didn't look in the right place (that bit about 3rd & 19th above).  Now I remember working on a story about a shoe repair place that I thought was [[Homewood Shoe Hospital]], which you can see doesn't exist as of this writing.  I remember writing -- I thought on a Talk page -- about how someone had bought up a bunch of similar domain names such that it was extremely hard to tell which was the correct one to list on the page.  But now I can't find it.  Maybe it was a different business? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 04:09, 9 February 2018 (PST)
* I can't find anything like what you're describing. Is it possible you worked on it offline? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 06:47, 9 February 2018 (PST)
** Maybe, but I could have sworn it was something I posted.  I checked my e-mails to you and didn't find anything there either.  I just wondered if there was any chance we lost some articles at some point?  Although I did a quick check of the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine to see if they had such a page archive and they didn't.  The problem being there's a few different URL variations it could be under and I probably didn't hit them all. If it's something I did offline, I may never find it. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 21:37, 9 February 2018 (PST)
*** There was one point where we lost some uploaded images, but I don't think it affected the SQL database. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 08:23, 10 February 2018 (PST)
 
==Statistics 2018==
===Articles/files===
* We have 12,989 articles and 5,955 uploaded files on Bhamwiki right now.
* That's 0.46 illustrations per article, or 1 image for every 2.18 articles.
 
===Page edits===
Over 12 years, we're still averaging right around 33 page edits per day and 3.88 edits per page.
 
===Red links===
* As of March 2, 2018, there are [http://www.bhamwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:WantedPages&limit=500&offset=50000 59,844 wanted articles] with who knows how many links to them (red links). We have about 12,989 articles, so we're now 17.83% complete. Two years ago (May 2016), we were about 18.86% done. Our "percent done" continues to track backwards as we've added more red links than articles. (Note that wanted pages represent any topic which "could" have an article, not just those that "should" or "probably will" have articles.) This phenomenon is (still) probably best explained by my use of City Directories to populate street articles with abundant red links.
 
===Users===
We have a total of 500 registered users, of whom 233 have made at least one edit, and 4 have made edits in the 30 days (between February 1 and March 2, 2018).
 
===WikiFactor===
:''"WikiFactor" is a measure of a site's popularity, derived by finding which is the last page (on [[Special:Popularpages]]) to have 1000x the number of page views as the number of its ranking.''
Our WikiFactor is now 46, as of 03/02/18.
* Update: As of 12/9/20 our WikiFactor is now 61.
 
===Social media===
* On Facebook, 1,903 people "like" Bhamwiki, and 1,891 "follow" our posts.
* On Twitter, 8,124 accounts "follow" Bhamwiki.
* On Instagram, 258 accounts "follow" Bhamwiki.
 
==March 2018==
* What's the interest in an anniversary get-together? Jim 'N Nick's for old times' sake? Pizitz Food Hall for variety? Cahaba Brewing Co. for room to run around? Is there a St Pat's parade? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 13:13, 2 March 2018 (PST)
** I'm going to be in Birmingham next weekend (3/10–11). I don't think I could make it back again the next. Would you and Chivon want to get together with Dorothy and me while we're there next week? Perhaps we should take this to e-mail. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 08:05, 3 March 2018 (PST)
*** Should be up for it. E-mail or Facebook works. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 15:43, 3 March 2018 (PST)
**** Did you guys meet up? Happy birthday Bhamwiki! Let me know if you all get together. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] ([[User talk:Wheresdib|talk]]) 14:07, 15 March 2018 (PDT)
***** Yes, I'm afraid we met up a week ago since I was in town.  It was just John, my wife, and me since no one else had chimed in.  Sorry! --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 06:33, 16 March 2018 (PDT)
****** Welcome to the party! We can get together whenever you like. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 09:19, 16 March 2018 (PDT)
 
== Bobbi-Kar/Keller ==
 
I stumbled upon this on Wikipedia today: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keller_(automobile) Keller (automobile)]. It looks like their stay in Birmingham was short, but might be worth researching further. Noting it here in case I never get around to it. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 06:57, 9 November 2018 (PST)
 
== Tommy James ==
 
I happened across this on Wikipedia on the entry for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_James_and_the_Shondells Tommy James and the Shondells]:
 
<blockquote style="background-color:#eef; padding:.2em; ">The group continued until 1970. At a concert in Birmingham, Alabama in March of that year, an exhausted James collapsed after coming off stage from a reaction to drugs and was actually pronounced dead. He recovered and decided to move to the country to rest and recuperate, and left the band.</blockquote>
 
Unfortunately, the source cited for the first sentence is a book. The other source cited in that section doesn't actually mention anything about it happening in Birmingham. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_James Tommy James]' own Wikipedia entry actually has less detail on the incident other than mentioning it happened in March 1970. I don't have time to dig further right now, but wanted to note it in case someone else wants to chase it. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 09:16, 30 May 2019 (PDT)
** [http://wvok-memories.tripod.com/id21.html This collection of WVOK "Shower of Stars" advertisements] indicates that they were billed as part of the show in 1966, 1967, 1969 and 1971. They weren't billed as part of any of the three 1970 shows, though. And I haven't found much by trying to limit Google's searches to before 2010, when that tidbit was added to the Wikipedia page by User:147.31.159.125. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 11:13, 5 July 2019 (PDT)
 
==Statistics July 5, 2019==
===Articles/files===
* We have 13,806 articles and 6,270 uploaded files on Bhamwiki right now.
* That's 0.45 illustrations per article, or 1 image for every 2.20 articles.
 
===Page edits===
Over 12 years, we're still averaging right around 32 page edits per day and 3.96 edits per page.
 
===Red links===
* As of July 5, 2019, there are [http://www.bhamwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:WantedPages&limit=500&offset=67000 67,487 wanted articles] with who knows how many links to them (red links). We have 13,806 articles, so we're now 16.98% complete. Three years ago (May 2016), we were about 18.86% done. Our "percent done" continues to track backwards as we've added more red links than articles. (Note that wanted pages represent any topic which "could" have an article, not just those that "should" or "probably will" have articles.) This phenomenon is (still) probably best explained by my use of City Directories to populate street articles with abundant red links.
 
===Users===
We have a total of 519 registered users, of whom 243 have made at least one edit, and 5 have made edits in the 30 days (between June 5 and July 5, 2019).
 
===WikiFactor===
:''"WikiFactor" is a measure of a site's popularity, derived by finding which is the last page (on [[Special:Popularpages]]) to have 1000x the number of page views as the number of its ranking.''
:* Our WikiFactor is now 54, as of 07/05/19.
:* Our WikiFactor is now 60, as of 07/22/20.
 
===Social media===
* On Facebook, 2,028 people "like" Bhamwiki, and 2,084 "follow" our posts.
* On Twitter, 8,282 accounts "follow" Bhamwiki.
* On Instagram, 980 accounts "follow" Bhamwiki.
 
== https ==
* I do wish you'd stop removing the "s" from "https" links. It's much safer to browse using https and there's no guarantee that a server will respond to an http call to the same page as an https one. If you don't like the lock icons it produces, there's probably a way to disable that in the MediaWiki settings. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 06:42, 3 August 2019 (PDT)
** Okay. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 08:07, 5 August 2019 (PDT)
 
== COVID-19 closures ==
 
Does a subcategory need to be created for businesses that closed permanently as a result of the current pandemic? I'm not sure what to call it. "2020 Coronavirus pandemic permanent closures" is a mouthful. Maybe some subset of those words. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 07:48, 16 May 2020 (PDT)
* I think maybe a [[List of businesses that closed during the 2020 Coronavirus pandemic|list]] might be less 'junky' than a category, but I'm not opposed. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 13:21, 22 July 2020 (PDT)
 
== In The News ==
 
* On the front page in the "In the News" section, there is an errant </small > which is showing on the page. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] ([[User talk:Wheresdib|talk]]) 14:05, 24 November 2020 (PST)
** Thanks for the small tip. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 14:54, 24 November 2020 (PST)
** And welcome back! --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 07:13, 25 November 2020 (PST)
*** We'll see how long my return lasts. My new employer doesn't allow cell phones in the building so it feels like 2006 all over again. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] ([[User talk:Wheresdib|talk]]) 07:22, 27 November 2020 (PST)
**** 😮 --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] ([[User talk:Lkseitz|talk]]) 06:53, 28 November 2020 (PST)
***** Terrified of the [https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/05/great-5g-conspiracy/611317/ 5G], eh? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 07:21, 30 November 2020 (PST)
 
== Images from Wikipedia ==
 
Pardon my ignorance, or lack of memory. I am trying to fill in some of the missing images we have. I found an image of [[Mary McLeod]] on Wikipedia but I'm unsure if we can use it and if so, which template to use. See [[Talk:Mary McLeod]] for more info. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] ([[User talk:Wheresdib|talk]]) 10:33, 3 December 2020 (PST)
 
* Any help on this one? [[User:Dystopos]]? [[User:Lkseitz]]? [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] ([[User talk:Wheresdib|talk]]) 06:38, 9 December 2020 (PST)
** Anything that's on Wikipedia is okay to use. Generally, the (CC BY-SA 3.0) license notification produced by using the "<nowiki>{{CC Image}}</nowiki>" template is compatible with photographs published under Wikipedia's standard GFDL license. In this case the creator has released it into the public domain, so the "<nowiki>{{PD}}</nowiki>" template applies. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 07:12, 9 December 2020 (PST)
*** Perfect! I had looked but couldn't find what I was looking for. I knew there was something along these lines. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] ([[User talk:Wheresdib|talk]]) 08:55, 9 December 2020 (PST)
 
== Creature ==
 
See the Discussion page for [[Creature]]. Is it still in business, if not, who is currently using their signage? [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] ([[User talk:Wheresdib|talk]]) 06:38, 9 December 2020 (PST)
 
== Please delete  ==
* Delete category [[:Category:Greek owned businesses]], I forgot the dash. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] ([[User talk:Wheresdib|talk]]) 11:17, 9 December 2020 (PST)
** Done. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 12:36, 9 December 2020 (PST)

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18th Anniversary and Business Meeting

  • Save the date. I have booked Rojo's side room for an 18th anniversary party and business meeting on the afternoon of Sunday, March 17, 2024 (St Patrick's Day) from 1:00 to 4:00. The agenda for the business meeting is "Time to Grow Up", and we will aim to draft an advisory committee which will take up the task of discussing the future of the website (succession plans, etc.) Anyone interested is invited to join us. More information to come. Feel free to contact me with questions, etc. --Dystopos (talk) 10:05, 1 February 2024 (CST)
    • I have created an event page on Facebook. If you haven't been invited to interact with that page and would like to be, just let me know. Facebook interaction is by no means a requirement for actually coming to the party. --Dystopos (talk) 14:43, 12 February 2024 (CST)
      • Thank you to everyone who showed up. It was a surprisingly good turnout and very enjoyable. --Dystopos (talk) 11:23, 19 March 2024 (CDT)

Remarks

Advisory committee

  • As mentioned in my spoken notes, I do plan to convene an advisory committee or like body, using the names proferred in March (and any others who are interested). I expect to be sending out an email in the next week or so. --Dystopos (talk) 16:33, 10 May 2024 (CDT)