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==18th Anniversary and Business Meeting==
* Save the date. I have booked [[Rojo]]'s side room for an 18th anniversary party and business meeting on the afternoon of Sunday, March 17, 2024 (St Patrick's Day) from 1:00 to 4:00. The agenda for the business meeting is "Time to Grow Up", and we will aim to draft an advisory committee which will take up the task of discussing the future of the website (succession plans, etc.)  Anyone interested is invited to join us. More information to come. Feel free to contact me with questions, etc. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 10:05, 1 February 2024 (CST)
** I have created an event page on Facebook. If you haven't been invited to interact with that page and would like to be, just let me know. Facebook interaction is by no means a requirement for actually coming to the party. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 14:43, 12 February 2024 (CST)
*** Thank you to everyone who showed up. It was a surprisingly good turnout and very enjoyable. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 11:23, 19 March 2024 (CDT)


== Jefferson County Maps ==
===Remarks===
[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Jefferson_County%2C_Alabama Look what I found] via Wikipedia today! --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 14:14, 9 June 2007 (PDT)
* You can find a copy of my remarks here: [[Bhamwiki talk:Messageboard/18th Anniversary notes]]. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 20:01, 18 March 2024 (CDT)
* That's sweet stuff. I was able to download an editable .svg file and prettify it up in inkscape and photshop as an experiment. More work than I would undertake all at once, but it gives you an idea of [[:Image:Vestavia Hills map.png|what can be done]]. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 21:54, 9 June 2007 (PDT)
**Impressive!  And far beyond my skills.  --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:49, 11 June 2007 (PDT)


== Defunct landmarks and institutions ==
===Advisory committee ===
I was wondering if we should have an encompassing upper-level category for [[:Category:Demolished buildings]], [[:Category:Former parks]], [[:Category:Defunct periodicals]], and so on.  In other words, a category for buildings, sites, institutions, and things that no longer exist.  (We have one for people.  It's called [[:Category:People by year of death]].) Something that would make it easy to navigate through "things that aren't there any more."  I can't think of an all-encompassing name for it. It would probably break down into "Former landmarks" and "Defunct institutions", though.  --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:49, 11 June 2007 (PDT)
* As mentioned in my spoken notes, I do plan to convene an advisory committee or like body, using the names proferred in March (and any others who are interested). I expect to be sending out an email in the next week or so. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 16:33, 10 May 2024 (CDT)
* I wonder if you wouldn't just pop them into [[:Category:History]] until something more specific becomes evident. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 12:08, 11 June 2007 (PDT)


==slowness==
==Giants==
* I know that the site has been slow the last couple of days. I've taken action to block [http://www.cuill.com/twiceler/robot.html twiceler], a robot/crawler that was hitting us almost as hard as googlebot. Hopefully that will take some pressure off the server CPU until we figure out a way to channel googlebot more productively. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:54, 21 June 2007 (PDT)
* Any interest in a [[:Category:Restaurants named for San Francisco Giants players]]? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 10:26, 22 June 2024 (CDT)
 
== High school bands ==
 
With my creation of an entry for [[Pat Morrow]], I got to thinking about the various appearances of local high school marching bands in nationally televised parades.  This seems like prime material for a list, but how to phrase it?  "List of Birmingham District high school marching bands nationally televised appearances" just seems too wordy.  Breaking the list up into separate lists either for individual high schools (e.g. [[Homewood High School]]) or events (e.g. Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade), while making the list name simpler seems like too much specialization.  The former can be included in the high school's entry (or the band's, if it merits one).  I like the idea of a three column list with the date, school, and event that can be sorted on any of those.  So any suggestions for a better list name? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 15:36, 25 July 2007 (PDT)
* The main thing is finding the references that would allow us to generate such a list. We can move it around until the name feels right (vis-a-vis [[Interstate hole]]) --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 16:00, 25 July 2007 (PDT)
**Well as Homewood's was the first Alabama high school band in Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, we don't have to go back past the '70s.  And I suspect the most recent stories on the Homewood, Hoover, and any other bands going to such parades might mention the previous appearances.  I guess I'll get started, come up with a name, and we can go from there. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:48, 28 July 2007 (PDT)
***I suppose I should have mentioned, for those not closely watching the [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] page, that [[List of Birmingham District high school marching bands nationally televised appearances|this list]] was indeed created, with far too long a name, not long after my last message above. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:31, 15 October 2007 (PDT)
 
== Infobox City ==
* I've created another [[Template:Infobox City|Infobox template]], this time for cities and towns.  You can see an example of it in use on the [[Homewood]] page.  I thought I'd solicit feedback before sticking it on more pages. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 21:01, 25 July 2007 (PDT)
** Let's try it out on [[Vestavia Hills]] with the seal centered top and the map filling space at the bottom. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 06:38, 26 July 2007 (PDT)
*** Done.  (What do you think?)  And I learned something, so now the image attribute is optional on the [[Template:Infobox School|school infobox template]].  So if any articles weren't using it because it lacked an image, that's no longer an issue.  Speaking of the school infobox, should we add to it the background colors used in the city one? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 09:15, 26 July 2007 (PDT)
**** Looks pretty cool to me. Good work. Generally I prefer only the subtlest coloration. Let's stick with less is more for now. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 11:24, 26 July 2007 (PDT)
 
== Faculty categories ==
 
We have an inconsistency in the [[:Category:Educators|various faculty categories]].  It currently is on a per high school basis . . . sort of.  Some Birmingham high schools have their own faculty categories.  The suburbs with their own school systems tend to only have one high school that's named after the city.  So where do we put Birmingham superintendents? Because the suburbs only have one high school, their superintendents are in the "city's" faculty category.  Do we need to create [[:Category:Birmingham faculty]] and then put the schools as subcategories?  We have to keep in mind all schools, not just high schools, as I know there are some Homewood Middle School principals in [[:Category:Homewood faculty]]. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:45, 28 July 2007 (PDT)
* It probably does make sense to group grade school faculty by system. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:42, 28 July 2007 (PDT)
 
== Birmingham Barons ==
 
Another day, [[Template:Birmingham Barons|another template]], for which I welcome feedback.  Working on this template led me to do clean up of the [[Birmingham Barons]] article.  It seems to be largely copied from Wikipedia.  As such, it has some disambiguation on certain names.  I'm wondering if any of this disambiguation is necessary on BhamWiki or if the links can be changed to just the names.  The list follows:
 
*[[Jeff Abbott (baseball player)]]
*[[Bill Foster (baseball player)]]
*[[John Garland (baseball)]]
*[[Howard Johnson (baseball player)]]
*[[Roberto Hernandez (baseball player)]]
*[[John McNamara (baseball)]]
*[[Frank Thomas (AL baseball player)]]
:* Good observation. I'd nix the disambiguation until we find it necessary. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:20, 23 August 2007 (PDT)
:** Thanks for updating the template.  I've updated the Barons entry. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:58, 23 August 2007 (PDT)
 
== Fallout shelters ==
 
[[Image:Fallout_shelter.jpg|thumbnail|right|Fallout shelter sign]]
Should we have a category for buildings that were fallout shelters during the Cold War? Unfortunately, I only know of two:  the [[Birmingham News building (1917)]] and the [[Alabama Theatre]].  I can offer an anecdote for the latter.  There were still barrels of food and water stored around the Alabama until the late 1980s when the management asked the appropriate authorities to come remove them. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 05:57, 12 September 2007 (PDT)
*The only one I know about first hand is [[Napier Hall]] on the campus of the [[University of Montevallo]].  Still, I think a category would be appropriate. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 06:18, 12 September 2007 (PDT)
:* If we can find a listing, sure. My recollection is that I've seen the sign on several schools, and on the Vestavia Mall. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 06:57, 12 September 2007 (PDT)
 
==Photo sources==
:''Relocated to [[Bhamwiki:References#Images]].''
 
== Main Page ==
 
Is it just me or is the Main Page a little drab?  On every computer I get on, when I access the site, you have to scroll down to see the Featured Images.  Is there a way to move them up, or section off the page so they are visible without scrolling? [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]]
* I've moved the featured images up a bit and refined the introduction some. I also added a banner image at the top and modified the formatting for the "featured articles" grid. I think it looks a little fresher now. Thanks for the suggestion. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 15:32, 22 October 2007 (PDT)
 
== Civil Rights movement link ==
* I was linking "civil rights" in the [[Temple Emanu-El]] article and discovered something; we've linked "Civil rights movement," "Civil Rights movement," and "Civil Rights Movement" in almost equal numbers.  (See the [[Special:Wantedpages]] page and turn it up to the top 500.)  Maybe we should create a stub with the "correct" capitalization so our links in the future will be consistent? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 06:59, 14 October 2007 (PDT)
:* Sounds good. Which one is correct? I think we got here because I keep thinking different things at different times. Wikipedia uses "civil rights movement" to discuss various movements, and "African-American Civil Rights Movement (1955-1968)", to discuss a particular one. "Civil Rights Act of 1964" would be capitalized as a title, but generally in texts, "civil rights movement" seems most common. I tend to go with "civil rights movement" in text, and "Civil rights movement" as the title. What do you think? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:15, 14 October 2007 (PDT)
::*I was hoping you'd make an executive decision, because I'm on the fence as to which is correct.  I searched the [http://www.bcri.org/ Birmingham Civil Rights Institute web site] for "civil rights movement" and discovered they're not consistent either.  I listen to the [http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/GrammarGirl/ Grammar Girl podcast], and her episode on [http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/GrammarGirl/Capitalizing-Proper-Nouns.aspx "Capitalizing Proper Nouns"] makes me think that, since we're discussing a specific time period, all three words should be capitalized.  In other words, we're typically using "Civil Rights Movement" as shorthand for Wikipedia's "African-American Civil Rights Movement."  --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 07:00, 15 October 2007 (PDT)
:::*I am going to agree with Lee.  "Civil Rights Movement" seems to be the best usage, not only to show it was significant but also an actual movement.  You would capitalize "Civil War" when referring to the war that took place from 1861 to 1865 in America, even though there are lots of "civil wars" and "civil rights movements".  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 07:30, 15 October 2007 (PDT)
:::*As opposed to the "War of Northern Aggression." I agree, captitalize each word. Someone pick one for all of us. --[[User:MacroAlan|MacroAlan]] 08:28, 15 October 2007 (PDT)
::::*Looks like we have two fence-sitters and two actual votes. Therefore we'll go with [[Civil Rights Movement]]. Now... who's going to start writing the article? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 10:03, 15 October 2007 (PDT)
:::::*Well since I started this mess, I've created a stub for it.  I don't know that I'll have time to do more than that any time soon. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:07, 15 October 2007 (PDT)
 
==Error on October 22==
* Most of the site (with the exception of some of the "Special pages" was inaccessible for most of the day on October 22 (Black Monday). User:gt9606a did something mysterious to get it working again. If you see him, buy him a drink. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 15:13, 22 October 2007 (PDT)
 
== Halloween ==
 
Aren't we past due to use the [[Main Page]] to draw attention to [[:Category:Haunted attractions]] and [[:Category:Ghosts]] again for Halloween? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 13:20, 23 October 2007 (PDT)
:* OK. I added the links and found an Octobery banner. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 15:16, 23 October 2007 (PDT)

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18th Anniversary and Business Meeting

  • Save the date. I have booked Rojo's side room for an 18th anniversary party and business meeting on the afternoon of Sunday, March 17, 2024 (St Patrick's Day) from 1:00 to 4:00. The agenda for the business meeting is "Time to Grow Up", and we will aim to draft an advisory committee which will take up the task of discussing the future of the website (succession plans, etc.) Anyone interested is invited to join us. More information to come. Feel free to contact me with questions, etc. --Dystopos (talk) 10:05, 1 February 2024 (CST)
    • I have created an event page on Facebook. If you haven't been invited to interact with that page and would like to be, just let me know. Facebook interaction is by no means a requirement for actually coming to the party. --Dystopos (talk) 14:43, 12 February 2024 (CST)
      • Thank you to everyone who showed up. It was a surprisingly good turnout and very enjoyable. --Dystopos (talk) 11:23, 19 March 2024 (CDT)

Remarks

Advisory committee

  • As mentioned in my spoken notes, I do plan to convene an advisory committee or like body, using the names proferred in March (and any others who are interested). I expect to be sending out an email in the next week or so. --Dystopos (talk) 16:33, 10 May 2024 (CDT)

Giants

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