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==18th Anniversary and Business Meeting==
* Save the date. I have booked [[Rojo]]'s side room for an 18th anniversary party and business meeting on the afternoon of Sunday, March 17, 2024 (St Patrick's Day) from 1:00 to 4:00. The agenda for the business meeting is "Time to Grow Up", and we will aim to draft an advisory committee which will take up the task of discussing the future of the website (succession plans, etc.)  Anyone interested is invited to join us. More information to come. Feel free to contact me with questions, etc. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 10:05, 1 February 2024 (CST)
** I have created an event page on Facebook. If you haven't been invited to interact with that page and would like to be, just let me know. Facebook interaction is by no means a requirement for actually coming to the party. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 14:43, 12 February 2024 (CST)
*** Thank you to everyone who showed up. It was a surprisingly good turnout and very enjoyable. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 11:23, 19 March 2024 (CDT)


== Jefferson County Maps ==
===Remarks===
[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Jefferson_County%2C_Alabama Look what I found] via Wikipedia today! --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 14:14, 9 June 2007 (PDT)
* You can find a copy of my remarks here: [[Bhamwiki talk:Messageboard/18th Anniversary notes]]. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 20:01, 18 March 2024 (CDT)
* That's sweet stuff. I was able to download an editable .svg file and prettify it up in inkscape and photshop as an experiment. More work than I would undertake all at once, but it gives you an idea of [[:Image:Vestavia Hills map.png|what can be done]]. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 21:54, 9 June 2007 (PDT)
**Impressive!  And far beyond my skills.  --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:49, 11 June 2007 (PDT)


== Defunct landmarks and institutions ==
===Advisory committee ===
I was wondering if we should have an encompassing upper-level category for [[:Category:Demolished buildings]], [[:Category:Former parks]], [[:Category:Defunct periodicals]], and so on.  In other words, a category for buildings, sites, institutions, and things that no longer exist.  (We have one for people.  It's called [[:Category:People by year of death]].) Something that would make it easy to navigate through "things that aren't there any more."  I can't think of an all-encompassing name for it. It would probably break down into "Former landmarks" and "Defunct institutions", though.  --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:49, 11 June 2007 (PDT)
* As mentioned in my spoken notes, I do plan to convene an advisory committee or like body, using the names proferred in March (and any others who are interested). I expect to be sending out an email in the next week or so. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 16:33, 10 May 2024 (CDT)
* I wonder if you wouldn't just pop them into [[:Category:History]] until something more specific becomes evident. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 12:08, 11 June 2007 (PDT)


== Infobox City ==
==Giants==
* I've created another [[Template:Infobox City|Infobox template]], this time for cities and towns.  You can see an example of it in use on the [[Homewood]] page.  I thought I'd solicit feedback before sticking it on more pages. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 21:01, 25 July 2007 (PDT)
* Any interest in a [[:Category:Restaurants named for San Francisco Giants players]]? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 10:26, 22 June 2024 (CDT)
** Let's try it out on [[Vestavia Hills]] with the seal centered top and the map filling space at the bottom. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 06:38, 26 July 2007 (PDT)
*** Done.  (What do you think?)  And I learned something, so now the image attribute is optional on the [[Template:Infobox School|school infobox template]].  So if any articles weren't using it because it lacked an image, that's no longer an issue.  Speaking of the school infobox, should we add to it the background colors used in the city one? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 09:15, 26 July 2007 (PDT)
**** Looks pretty cool to me. Good work. Generally I prefer only the subtlest coloration. Let's stick with less is more for now. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 11:24, 26 July 2007 (PDT)
 
== Birmingham Barons ==
Another day, [[Template:Birmingham Barons|another template]], for which I welcome feedback.  Working on this template led me to do clean up of the [[Birmingham Barons]] article.  It seems to be largely copied from Wikipedia.  As such, it has some disambiguation on certain names.  I'm wondering if any of this disambiguation is necessary on BhamWiki or if the links can be changed to just the names.  The list follows:
 
*[[Jeff Abbott (baseball player)]]
*[[Bill Foster (baseball player)]]
*[[John Garland (baseball)]]
*[[Howard Johnson (baseball player)]]
*[[Roberto Hernandez (baseball player)]]
*[[John McNamara (baseball)]]
*[[Frank Thomas (AL baseball player)]]
:* Good observation. I'd nix the disambiguation until we find it necessary. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:20, 23 August 2007 (PDT)
:** Thanks for updating the template.  I've updated the Barons entry. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:58, 23 August 2007 (PDT)
 
==Photo sources==
:''Relocated to [[Bhamwiki:References#Images]].''
 
== Civil Rights movement link ==
* I was linking "civil rights" in the [[Temple Emanu-El]] article and discovered something; we've linked "Civil rights movement," "Civil Rights movement," and "Civil Rights Movement" in almost equal numbers.  (See the [[Special:Wantedpages]] page and turn it up to the top 500.)  Maybe we should create a stub with the "correct" capitalization so our links in the future will be consistent? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 06:59, 14 October 2007 (PDT)
:* Sounds good. Which one is correct? I think we got here because I keep thinking different things at different times. Wikipedia uses "civil rights movement" to discuss various movements, and "African-American Civil Rights Movement (1955-1968)", to discuss a particular one. "Civil Rights Act of 1964" would be capitalized as a title, but generally in texts, "civil rights movement" seems most common. I tend to go with "civil rights movement" in text, and "Civil rights movement" as the title. What do you think? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:15, 14 October 2007 (PDT)
::*I was hoping you'd make an executive decision, because I'm on the fence as to which is correct.  I searched the [http://www.bcri.org/ Birmingham Civil Rights Institute web site] for "civil rights movement" and discovered they're not consistent either.  I listen to the [http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/GrammarGirl/ Grammar Girl podcast], and her episode on [http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/GrammarGirl/Capitalizing-Proper-Nouns.aspx "Capitalizing Proper Nouns"] makes me think that, since we're discussing a specific time period, all three words should be capitalized.  In other words, we're typically using "Civil Rights Movement" as shorthand for Wikipedia's "African-American Civil Rights Movement."  --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 07:00, 15 October 2007 (PDT)
:::*I am going to agree with Lee.  "Civil Rights Movement" seems to be the best usage, not only to show it was significant but also an actual movement.  You would capitalize "Civil War" when referring to the war that took place from 1861 to 1865 in America, even though there are lots of "civil wars" and "civil rights movements".  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 07:30, 15 October 2007 (PDT)
:::*As opposed to the "War of Northern Aggression." I agree, captitalize each word. Someone pick one for all of us. --[[User:MacroAlan|MacroAlan]] 08:28, 15 October 2007 (PDT)
::::*Looks like we have two fence-sitters and two actual votes. Therefore we'll go with [[Civil Rights Movement]]. Now... who's going to start writing the article? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 10:03, 15 October 2007 (PDT)
:::::*Well since I started this mess, I've created a stub for it.  I don't know that I'll have time to do more than that any time soon. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 11:07, 15 October 2007 (PDT)
:::::: I've expanded the stub. As our coverage of the movement increases, we can expand the article to put things into context. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 15:20, 23 October 2007 (PDT)
 
==Linking==
I've noticed a lot of in-line external links to national artists showing up in the [[Taste of 4th Avenue Jazz Festival]] article and others. Links in articles which point to topics BhamWiki should cover are best created as internal links (in double brackets). In my thinking, external links are best reserved for the "External links" section which links to more information on the article topic as a whole. I understand that there are exceptions, and I can see that having a direct link to an artist who will never be profiled here does some service to the reader. I guess I'm not sure that BhamWiki needs to be responsible for selecting the most appropriate sites to link  to. Any other thoughts? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 06:58, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
 
== "Random page" time! ==
*I think we should spend some time looking at the pages that are on BhamWiki and making sure there are no typos, glaring errors, tense issues and other problems.  If you click on "Random page" to the left, in the "navigation" box [http://www.bhamwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Random] it will pop up a page for you to look at.  I've come across some pages, especially ones that were added early on, that refer to things that will happen in the future, when in fact that date has come to pass.  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 07:43, 4 January 2008 (PST)
:* A capital idea. One might also search for the terms "will" or "scheduled" to ferret out such anachronisms. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:17, 4 January 2008 (PST)
 
== New Category for articles with outdated statements? ==
*Over the last few days, I've come across several articles that have outdated information (i.e., "the complex is scheduled to open in Fall 2007" etc) that I can't verify if it came to fruition or not.  I would like to mark those in some way so I (or someone) can follow up on those statements.  Would it be ok for me to create a "Articles with outdated information" category or something to that effect?  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 20:51, 18 January 2008 (PST)
:* I'm not sure. I guess my preference would be to assemble a list without cluttering the categories section of the article. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 21:28, 18 January 2008 (PST)
::*OK, that's fine with me.  I wasn't sure how to proceed.  I love working from lists but hate having to manually maintain them, LOL.  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 06:33, 19 January 2008 (PST)
::*While I agree maintenance categories can clutter an article's categories to unusefulness, I doubt we'd reach ever reach that point here.  I think a single "outdated" category could be useful, much in the way of the [[:Category:Stubs|stubs category]] is.  It's also a lot easier to apply a template to an article that would insert a notice and the "outdated" category than it is to  maintain a list.  That's my two cents. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 12:53, 21 January 2008 (PST)
:::*That was sorta my thought to begin with.  I started a list somewhere. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 13:00, 21 January 2008 (PST)
::::*Has the "stubs" category proven to be very useful? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:11, 21 January 2008 (PST)
:::::*That's a tough call.  Maybe it is useful for generating interest in those who aren't signed up to create an account and edit that article.  But for me, a regular editor, I don't think I've ever looked at the category "stubs".  I still don't see why a single category called "Outdated", or whatever, is a big deal, but hey this is your baby, and my list is fine with me.  Get another 10 or 15 regular contributors/editors, then we'll see.  But between the three core contributors we have now, it's manageable since I am pretty sure you nor Lee haven't any burning desire to check on those type articles.  I am not complaining at all, just making a statement.  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 14:37, 21 January 2008 (PST)
::::::*It's your baby too. No one is obligated to abide by my stated preferences as long as they continue to abide by the User Agreement. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:57, 21 January 2008 (PST)
::::::*The problem with the stubs category is, at least for me, most of the things I put in it are there because I'm unable to find any further information on the Internet.  Not from lack of research. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 06:47, 23 January 2008 (PST)
 
== Blizzard of 2008 ==
*What, no Blizzard of 2008 article?  What did we get, like maybe 2 inches of snow, on a Saturday?  (Completely joking, of course)  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 08:12, 22 January 2008 (PST)
 
== 2nd Anniversary Party ==
BhamWiki turns 2 on March 15. I'm hoping some of you will join me for a celebratory dinner and casual brainstorming session. The tentative plan is to meet at Cosmo's Pizza in 5 Points at around 7:00 on Saturday the 15th. Let me know if you expect to come and if there are a lot, I'll make sure we have a reserved table. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:13, 26 February 2008 (PST)
*I'm asking the wife right now!  If so, I'd probably have my 7 yr old with us, unless I talked my mom in to keeping him.  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 08:41, 26 February 2008 (PST)
:* I think we can accommodate a 7 year old. As long as he likes pizza. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:42, 26 February 2008 (PST)
*I'll try to be there, if I don't book a gig.  [[User:Rreach|--Rreach]] 12:22, 26 February 2008
*Barring unforseen complications, I should be there. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 10:20, 6 March 2008 (PST)
 
===update===
So far it looks like a decent group. I'm excited. I'll bring a couple of door prizes, too. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 19:11, 27 February 2008 (PST)
 
==Policy update==
* I've elaborated a little bit on our existing policies at [[Bhamwiki:Policy]]. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 10:51, 29 February 2008 (PST)
 
==Server change==
* Dreamhost has moved our MySQL server once more. (The new server name is "bagheera") So far the site's feeling much snappier to me. Let me know if you can feel the difference. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 10:15, 5 March 2008 (PST)

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18th Anniversary and Business Meeting

  • Save the date. I have booked Rojo's side room for an 18th anniversary party and business meeting on the afternoon of Sunday, March 17, 2024 (St Patrick's Day) from 1:00 to 4:00. The agenda for the business meeting is "Time to Grow Up", and we will aim to draft an advisory committee which will take up the task of discussing the future of the website (succession plans, etc.) Anyone interested is invited to join us. More information to come. Feel free to contact me with questions, etc. --Dystopos (talk) 10:05, 1 February 2024 (CST)
    • I have created an event page on Facebook. If you haven't been invited to interact with that page and would like to be, just let me know. Facebook interaction is by no means a requirement for actually coming to the party. --Dystopos (talk) 14:43, 12 February 2024 (CST)
      • Thank you to everyone who showed up. It was a surprisingly good turnout and very enjoyable. --Dystopos (talk) 11:23, 19 March 2024 (CDT)

Remarks

Advisory committee

  • As mentioned in my spoken notes, I do plan to convene an advisory committee or like body, using the names proferred in March (and any others who are interested). I expect to be sending out an email in the next week or so. --Dystopos (talk) 16:33, 10 May 2024 (CDT)

Giants

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