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==18th Anniversary and Business Meeting==
* Save the date. I have booked [[Rojo]]'s side room for an 18th anniversary party and business meeting on the afternoon of Sunday, March 17, 2024 (St Patrick's Day) from 1:00 to 4:00. The agenda for the business meeting is "Time to Grow Up", and we will aim to draft an advisory committee which will take up the task of discussing the future of the website (succession plans, etc.)  Anyone interested is invited to join us. More information to come. Feel free to contact me with questions, etc. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 10:05, 1 February 2024 (CST)
** I have created an event page on Facebook. If you haven't been invited to interact with that page and would like to be, just let me know. Facebook interaction is by no means a requirement for actually coming to the party. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 14:43, 12 February 2024 (CST)
*** Thank you to everyone who showed up. It was a surprisingly good turnout and very enjoyable. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 11:23, 19 March 2024 (CDT)


==Other local wikis==
===Remarks===
I signed up for the New Orleans Wiki in order to add an article about a former professor of mine. Although that wiki has 678 registered users, it only has 334 articles, many of which are little more than a pile of weblinks. My edit was the first activity since early March. It got me thinking about the progress of local wikis. I have to admit I don't know much about other projects -- I just assumed they were growing like mushrooms since it seems so obvious and since people seem to like being encyclopedians. After a few minutes of looking around, though, I started to think that maybe we're in the forefront of this wave. Do ya'll have any insight into where we might stand in the local-wikiverse?
* You can find a copy of my remarks here: [[Bhamwiki talk:Messageboard/18th Anniversary notes]]. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 20:01, 18 March 2024 (CDT)


The DavisWiki may be the grandaddy, with hundreds of users and 11,601 pages listed on their "recent changes" tab. (I don't know how to determine how many are actual articles). --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:30, 17 April 2008 (PDT)
===Advisory committee ===
* As mentioned in my spoken notes, I do plan to convene an advisory committee or like body, using the names proferred in March (and any others who are interested). I expect to be sending out an email in the next week or so. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 16:33, 10 May 2024 (CDT)


* All I can speak of is [http://www.hsvwiki.com HSVWiki].  I made a couple contributions and did some category organization (modeled on BhamWiki), but the site is not active and the owner has never contacted me.  And I'm the only registered user besides him or her.  You'd think with so much hi-tech business in town, we'd be able to support a great wiki, but until the owner of the site dedicates some work to it I guess no one else is going to make much effort to support it, including me. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 07:15, 21 April 2008 (PDT)
==Giants==
 
* Any interest in a [[:Category:Restaurants named for San Francisco Giants players]]? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] ([[User talk:Dystopos|talk]]) 10:26, 22 June 2024 (CDT)
* I added us to the Wikipedia article on City Wikis ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_wiki WP:City wiki]). According to their rankings, we're the 9th largest city wiki in the world and the 4th largest in the US. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:34, 7 July 2008 (PDT)
 
==Inspirational read==
:"Let's say [...] that people watch 99 percent as much television as they used to, but 1 percent of that is carved out for producing and for sharing. The Internet-connected population watches roughly a trillion hours of TV a year. That's about five times the size of the annual U.S. consumption. One per cent of that  is 100 Wikipedia projects per year worth of participation." - Clay Shirky (April 26, 2008) "[http://www.herecomeseverybody.org/2008/04/looking-for-the-mouse.html Gin, Television, and Social Surplus]". ''Here Comes Everybody'' weblog.
 
==Conflicts of interest==
I have added a policy page on [[Bhamwiki:Conflicts of interest|conflicts of interest]]. Suggestions for refining or improving the policy are welcome. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:22, 14 May 2008 (PDT)
* Looks good to me.  Per #6, I invite others to review the article on my father, [[Karl Seitz]].  Although I don't think he's a particularly controversial subject, it is rather embarrassing that no one else has performed edits on that page. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 05:56, 15 May 2008 (PDT)
**That's because there's nothing really there to edit.  It's got a little more fluff than most of our articles, but no truly unsubstantiated statements and no opinionated statements that I noticed.  For an article written by his son, it is pretty neutral in tone (IMHO).  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 09:21, 15 May 2008 (PDT)
 
==Twitter==
I'm experimenting with a [http://twitter.com/bhamwiki Twitter feed] to notify people about interesting new articles. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:24, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
 
== Those who failed to get elected ==
So, we now have a lot of red links to people who ran for office, but failed to win.  I understand that some individuals might be notable enough, even in losing, to merit entries, but should we truly default to making all their names links?  As you can tell, I think that's overkill, but wondered what other opinions are held here. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 12:53, 27 August 2008 (PDT)
 
*Yeah, I have debated over what to do about these.  There's no harm in having a bunch of redlinks, but it is probably in our best interest to go ahead and unlink them as we are updating the articles.  We can always go back and link them if an article is written for them. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 13:08, 27 August 2008 (PDT)
:* I have nothing against redlinks myself. If ya'll want to go removing brackets I won't go putting them back in. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:14, 27 August 2008 (PDT)
 
==Streets and subdivisions==
For residential streets in identifiable subdivisions, I think it would be best to start redirecting to articles on the subdivisions themselves, where there's a better prospect for meaningful content. (for example, [[Lucerne Boulevard]] should redirect to [[Lake Shore Estates]]). --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 06:55, 11 September 2008 (PDT)
 
==EofA==
* The [http://www.encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Home.jsp Encyclopedia of Alabama] officially launched today after 7 years of development with about $3 million in funding from the Alabama Humanities Foundation, Alabama Department of Education, the University of Alabama, and federal grants. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:28, 15 September 2008 (PDT)
 
== GFDL -> CC-BY-SA ==
* Under the latest revision to the GFDL, content can safely be migrated to CC-BY-SA, which is Bhamwiki's default license ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-17/GFDL_1.3 Wikipedia Signpost story]). I believe that means we can get rid of the [[:Template:GFDL]]. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 11:34, 26 November 2008 (PST)
 
== Winter Storm 2008 ==
 
So is it premature to stub in the '''Winter Storm 2008''' article?  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 06:45, 11 December 2008 (PST)
* Maybe I should put a flashing banner on the front page to urge people to stock up on milk and bread. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:35, 11 December 2008 (PST)
** How about a photo of empty milk and/or bread shelves at a local grocery store as the new banner photo? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 08:46, 11 December 2008 (PST)
*** Or maybe [http://www.birminghamster.com/index010202.htm this photo] --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 09:11, 11 December 2008 (PST)
 
==3rd Anniversary==
Now is the time for all good editors to come to the smorgasbord and celebrate another anniversary of Bhamwiki. March 15, 2009 falls on a Sunday. I'm open to keeping that date or moving to Friday or Saturday if that works better. I am also open to suggestions for a location, with the proviso that it should be a locally-owned establishment. As before, I plan on picking up some reasonable portion of the tab and bringing some door prizes and/or schwag. Other program suggestions will be entertained. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 15:33, 4 February 2009 (PST)
* As that will be a "kid weekend", if we could make it a lunch or brunch that would suit me better, Saturday or Sunday, or Sunday night.  I can't do Friday or Saturday night, especially if we're going to a place that serves alcohol.  I don't care where we go.  My usuals for a lunch/brunch are [[Rojo]] and [[Silvertron]].  --[[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 23:21, 4 February 2009 (PST)
** Doing it sometime other than Sunday night would let me avoid taking a day off work.  (Not that I really mind.)  I was going to ask my parents to watch my boys, as they'd probably be bored, but if Wheresdib is bringing his....  I was about to nominate [[New York Pizza]], but then I remembered we did pizza last year.  Rojo or Silvertron are both good. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 08:50, 5 February 2009 (PST)
*** Silvertron has a Sunday brunch from 11-2. Does that meet everyone's requirements? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 09:20, 5 February 2009 (PST)
**** Silverton at brunch sounds great to me! I'll more than likely only have my 8 yr old son with me. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 13:12, 5 February 2009 (PST)
 
* This is coming up pretty soon, and I realize now that I'll be kid free next weekend, so that means we can do it Saturday night if you would prefer.  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 05:12, 4 March 2009 (PST)
** Saturday night or Sunday brunch still both work for me.  I'm basing whether to bring my boys primarily on whether Wheresdib brings his, so now I guess I won't. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 08:29, 4 March 2009 (PST)
*** Plan on a Sunday brunch at Silvertron. I'll send out an e-mail and make arrangements. Kids are tolerated graciously. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 20:11, 7 March 2009 (PST)
**** Thanks, but I can't guarantee my boys will tolerate the adults graciously. :-)  Hannah will be joining us, however. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 08:47, 9 March 2009 (PDT)
 
===Details===
* Date: Sunday March 15
* Time: 12:00 PM
* Place: Silvertron Cafe in Forest Park
* Confirmed attendees (6.5):
:: User:Dystopos
:: User:Wheresdib (+Amy)
:: User:Lkseitz (+Dorothy & Hannah)
:: <strike>User:Graham Boettcher</strike>
:: User:Alarob
** Hannah's only 6 months old and won't be ordering, so we'll count her as a half.
*** Graham says he has a cold and can't make it. I was counting him as 1.5.
 
===Results===
[[Image:BhamWiki_3rd anniversary brunch.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Photo from anniversary dinner]]
* Thanks everybody for coming out. Nice to meet Rob, Dorothy and Hannah for the first time. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 12:33, 15 March 2009 (PDT)
** Thanks for having us.  It was nice to see y'all again and nice to meet Rob. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 20:21, 15 March 2009 (PDT)
 
==Fair use templates==
I'm considering re-engineering our image templates a bit. I think we could go with one "Fair Use" template for all types of media. At the same time it's nice to be able to bring up galleries of just logos, seals, postcards, advertisements, cd covers, etc. Therefore I propose two kinds of image templates: one for copyright status (public domain, cc, fair use, by permission) and one for the type of art (logo, portrait, photograph, film still, postcard, stamp, cd cover, book cover, magazine cover, screen shot, advertisement, trading card, etc). Any discussion before I start trudging through the dirty work? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 12:33, 16 February 2009 (PST)
* It occurs to me that some source-specific templates would be nice, too. Especially with regard to BPL Digital Archives. Maybe that template should have fields for item identifier, collection, permanent URL, etc. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 12:36, 16 February 2009 (PST)
** These sound like good ideas!  Beyond the work to implement it with existing items, I don't see an immediate downside to splitting the templates.  Some vague thought of being annoyed at creating yet another Fair Use template crossed my mind with the post card one, but I was too busy trying to get it done to worry about it too much.  A template for the BPL images does sound like a no-brainer (as in the need, not the implementation).  I'll see what I can do when I have the time (if no one beats me to it). --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 08:00, 17 February 2009 (PST)
*** I've done a good bit of the work, (See [[:Category:Seals]], [[:Category:Postcards]], etc). It wasn't as laborious as I thought it might be. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:59, 9 March 2009 (PDT)
**** I finally did a [[Template:BPL permission|couple]] [[Template:BPL permission caption|templates]] for BPL images.  Thought I'd solicit feedback before going through and updating all the photos. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 09:41, 11 March 2009 (PDT)
***** Those look pretty cool to me. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 10:50, 11 March 2009 (PDT)
 
==Facebook==
* Everyone who looks here already knows, but for the record I've started a [http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=57183139226 Facebook group] to facilitate communication between editors, users and supporters of Bhamwiki. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 09:08, 15 March 2009 (PDT)

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18th Anniversary and Business Meeting

  • Save the date. I have booked Rojo's side room for an 18th anniversary party and business meeting on the afternoon of Sunday, March 17, 2024 (St Patrick's Day) from 1:00 to 4:00. The agenda for the business meeting is "Time to Grow Up", and we will aim to draft an advisory committee which will take up the task of discussing the future of the website (succession plans, etc.) Anyone interested is invited to join us. More information to come. Feel free to contact me with questions, etc. --Dystopos (talk) 10:05, 1 February 2024 (CST)
    • I have created an event page on Facebook. If you haven't been invited to interact with that page and would like to be, just let me know. Facebook interaction is by no means a requirement for actually coming to the party. --Dystopos (talk) 14:43, 12 February 2024 (CST)
      • Thank you to everyone who showed up. It was a surprisingly good turnout and very enjoyable. --Dystopos (talk) 11:23, 19 March 2024 (CDT)

Remarks

Advisory committee

  • As mentioned in my spoken notes, I do plan to convene an advisory committee or like body, using the names proferred in March (and any others who are interested). I expect to be sending out an email in the next week or so. --Dystopos (talk) 16:33, 10 May 2024 (CDT)

Giants