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==Other local wikis==
I signed up for the New Orleans Wiki in order to add an article about a former professor of mine. Although that wiki has 678 registered users, it only has 334 articles, many of which are little more than a pile of weblinks. My edit was the first activity since early March. It got me thinking about the progress of local wikis. I have to admit I don't know much about other projects -- I just assumed they were growing like mushrooms since it seems so obvious and since people seem to like being encyclopedians. After a few minutes of looking around, though, I started to think that maybe we're in the forefront of this wave. Do ya'll have any insight into where we might stand in the local-wikiverse?


The DavisWiki may be the grandaddy, with hundreds of users and 11,601 pages listed on their "recent changes" tab. (I don't know how to determine how many are actual articles). --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:30, 17 April 2008 (PDT)
* All I can speak of is [http://www.hsvwiki.com HSVWiki].  I made a couple contributions and did some category organization (modeled on BhamWiki), but the site is not active and the owner has never contacted me.  And I'm the only registered user besides him or her.  You'd think with so much hi-tech business in town, we'd be able to support a great wiki, but until the owner of the site dedicates some work to it I guess no one else is going to make much effort to support it, including me. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 07:15, 21 April 2008 (PDT)
* I added us to the Wikipedia article on City Wikis ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_wiki WP:City wiki]). According to their rankings, we're the 9th largest city wiki in the world and the 4th largest in the US. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:34, 7 July 2008 (PDT)
==Inspirational read==
:"Let's say [...] that people watch 99 percent as much television as they used to, but 1 percent of that is carved out for producing and for sharing. The Internet-connected population watches roughly a trillion hours of TV a year. That's about five times the size of the annual U.S. consumption. One per cent of that  is 100 Wikipedia projects per year worth of participation." - Clay Shirky (April 26, 2008) "[http://www.herecomeseverybody.org/2008/04/looking-for-the-mouse.html Gin, Television, and Social Surplus]". ''Here Comes Everybody'' weblog.
==Conflicts of interest==
I have added a policy page on [[Bhamwiki:Conflicts of interest|conflicts of interest]]. Suggestions for refining or improving the policy are welcome. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:22, 14 May 2008 (PDT)
* Looks good to me.  Per #6, I invite others to review the article on my father, [[Karl Seitz]].  Although I don't think he's a particularly controversial subject, it is rather embarrassing that no one else has performed edits on that page. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 05:56, 15 May 2008 (PDT)
**That's because there's nothing really there to edit.  It's got a little more fluff than most of our articles, but no truly unsubstantiated statements and no opinionated statements that I noticed.  For an article written by his son, it is pretty neutral in tone (IMHO).  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 09:21, 15 May 2008 (PDT)
==Twitter==
I'm experimenting with a [http://twitter.com/bhamwiki Twitter feed] to notify people about interesting new articles. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 14:24, 6 August 2008 (PDT)
== Those who failed to get elected ==
So, we now have a lot of red links to people who ran for office, but failed to win.  I understand that some individuals might be notable enough, even in losing, to merit entries, but should we truly default to making all their names links?  As you can tell, I think that's overkill, but wondered what other opinions are held here. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 12:53, 27 August 2008 (PDT)
*Yeah, I have debated over what to do about these.  There's no harm in having a bunch of redlinks, but it is probably in our best interest to go ahead and unlink them as we are updating the articles.  We can always go back and link them if an article is written for them. [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 13:08, 27 August 2008 (PDT)
:* I have nothing against redlinks myself. If ya'll want to go removing brackets I won't go putting them back in. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:14, 27 August 2008 (PDT)
==Streets and subdivisions==
For residential streets in identifiable subdivisions, I think it would be best to start redirecting to articles on the subdivisions themselves, where there's a better prospect for meaningful content. (for example, [[Lucerne Boulevard]] should redirect to [[Lake Shore Estates]]). --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 06:55, 11 September 2008 (PDT)
==EofA==
* The [http://www.encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Home.jsp Encyclopedia of Alabama] officially launched today after 7 years of development with about $3 million in funding from the Alabama Humanities Foundation, Alabama Department of Education, the University of Alabama, and federal grants. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 13:28, 15 September 2008 (PDT)
== GFDL -> CC-BY-SA ==
* Under the latest revision to the GFDL, content can safely be migrated to CC-BY-SA, which is Bhamwiki's default license ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-17/GFDL_1.3 Wikipedia Signpost story]). I believe that means we can get rid of the [[:Template:GFDL]]. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 11:34, 26 November 2008 (PST)
== Winter Storm 2008 ==
So is it premature to stub in the '''Winter Storm 2008''' article?  [[User:Wheresdib|--Wheresdib]] 06:45, 11 December 2008 (PST)
* Maybe I should put a flashing banner on the front page to urge people to stock up on milk and bread. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 08:35, 11 December 2008 (PST)
** How about a photo of empty milk and/or bread shelves at a local grocery store as the new banner photo? --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 08:46, 11 December 2008 (PST)
*** Or maybe [http://www.birminghamster.com/index010202.htm this photo] --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 09:11, 11 December 2008 (PST)


==3rd Anniversary==
==3rd Anniversary==
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**** Thanks, but I can't guarantee my boys will tolerate the adults graciously. :-)  Hannah will be joining us, however. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 08:47, 9 March 2009 (PDT)
**** Thanks, but I can't guarantee my boys will tolerate the adults graciously. :-)  Hannah will be joining us, however. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 08:47, 9 March 2009 (PDT)


[[Image:BhamWiki_3rd anniversary brunch.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Photo from anniversary dinner]]
===Details===
===Details===
* Date: Sunday March 15
* Date: Sunday March 15
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===Results===
===Results===
[[Image:BhamWiki_3rd anniversary brunch.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Photo from anniversary dinner]]
* Thanks everybody for coming out. Nice to meet Rob, Dorothy and Hannah for the first time. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 12:33, 15 March 2009 (PDT)
* Thanks everybody for coming out. Nice to meet Rob, Dorothy and Hannah for the first time. --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 12:33, 15 March 2009 (PDT)
** Thanks for having us.  It was nice to see y'all again and nice to meet Rob. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 20:21, 15 March 2009 (PDT)
** Thanks for having us.  It was nice to see y'all again and nice to meet Rob. --[[User:Lkseitz|Lkseitz]] 20:21, 15 March 2009 (PDT)

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See Bhamwiki talk:Messageboard/Archive 2006, Bhamwiki talk:Messageboard/Archive 2007, and Bhamwiki talk:Messageboard/Archive 2008 for archived topics
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3rd Anniversary

Now is the time for all good editors to come to the smorgasbord and celebrate another anniversary of Bhamwiki. March 15, 2009 falls on a Sunday. I'm open to keeping that date or moving to Friday or Saturday if that works better. I am also open to suggestions for a location, with the proviso that it should be a locally-owned establishment. As before, I plan on picking up some reasonable portion of the tab and bringing some door prizes and/or schwag. Other program suggestions will be entertained. --Dystopos 15:33, 4 February 2009 (PST)

  • As that will be a "kid weekend", if we could make it a lunch or brunch that would suit me better, Saturday or Sunday, or Sunday night. I can't do Friday or Saturday night, especially if we're going to a place that serves alcohol. I don't care where we go. My usuals for a lunch/brunch are Rojo and Silvertron. ----Wheresdib 23:21, 4 February 2009 (PST)
    • Doing it sometime other than Sunday night would let me avoid taking a day off work. (Not that I really mind.) I was going to ask my parents to watch my boys, as they'd probably be bored, but if Wheresdib is bringing his.... I was about to nominate New York Pizza, but then I remembered we did pizza last year. Rojo or Silvertron are both good. --Lkseitz 08:50, 5 February 2009 (PST)
      • Silvertron has a Sunday brunch from 11-2. Does that meet everyone's requirements? --Dystopos 09:20, 5 February 2009 (PST)
        • Silverton at brunch sounds great to me! I'll more than likely only have my 8 yr old son with me. --Wheresdib 13:12, 5 February 2009 (PST)
  • This is coming up pretty soon, and I realize now that I'll be kid free next weekend, so that means we can do it Saturday night if you would prefer. --Wheresdib 05:12, 4 March 2009 (PST)
    • Saturday night or Sunday brunch still both work for me. I'm basing whether to bring my boys primarily on whether Wheresdib brings his, so now I guess I won't. --Lkseitz 08:29, 4 March 2009 (PST)
      • Plan on a Sunday brunch at Silvertron. I'll send out an e-mail and make arrangements. Kids are tolerated graciously. --Dystopos 20:11, 7 March 2009 (PST)
        • Thanks, but I can't guarantee my boys will tolerate the adults graciously. :-) Hannah will be joining us, however. --Lkseitz 08:47, 9 March 2009 (PDT)
Photo from anniversary dinner

Details

  • Date: Sunday March 15
  • Time: 12:00 PM
  • Place: Silvertron Cafe in Forest Park
  • Confirmed attendees (6.5):
User:Dystopos
User:Wheresdib (+Amy)
User:Lkseitz (+Dorothy & Hannah)
User:Graham Boettcher
User:Alarob
    • Hannah's only 6 months old and won't be ordering, so we'll count her as a half.
      • Graham says he has a cold and can't make it. I was counting him as 1.5.

Results

  • Thanks everybody for coming out. Nice to meet Rob, Dorothy and Hannah for the first time. --Dystopos 12:33, 15 March 2009 (PDT)
    • Thanks for having us. It was nice to see y'all again and nice to meet Rob. --Lkseitz 20:21, 15 March 2009 (PDT)

Fair use templates

I'm considering re-engineering our image templates a bit. I think we could go with one "Fair Use" template for all types of media. At the same time it's nice to be able to bring up galleries of just logos, seals, postcards, advertisements, cd covers, etc. Therefore I propose two kinds of image templates: one for copyright status (public domain, cc, fair use, by permission) and one for the type of art (logo, portrait, photograph, film still, postcard, stamp, cd cover, book cover, magazine cover, screen shot, advertisement, trading card, etc). Any discussion before I start trudging through the dirty work? --Dystopos 12:33, 16 February 2009 (PST)

  • It occurs to me that some source-specific templates would be nice, too. Especially with regard to BPL Digital Archives. Maybe that template should have fields for item identifier, collection, permanent URL, etc. --Dystopos 12:36, 16 February 2009 (PST)
    • These sound like good ideas! Beyond the work to implement it with existing items, I don't see an immediate downside to splitting the templates. Some vague thought of being annoyed at creating yet another Fair Use template crossed my mind with the post card one, but I was too busy trying to get it done to worry about it too much. A template for the BPL images does sound like a no-brainer (as in the need, not the implementation). I'll see what I can do when I have the time (if no one beats me to it). --Lkseitz 08:00, 17 February 2009 (PST)
      • I've done a good bit of the work, (See Category:Seals, Category:Postcards, etc). It wasn't as laborious as I thought it might be. --Dystopos 13:59, 9 March 2009 (PDT)
        • I finally did a couple templates for BPL images. Thought I'd solicit feedback before going through and updating all the photos. --Lkseitz 09:41, 11 March 2009 (PDT)
          • Those look pretty cool to me. --Dystopos 10:50, 11 March 2009 (PDT)

Facebook

  • Everyone who looks here already knows, but for the record I've started a Facebook group to facilitate communication between editors, users and supporters of Bhamwiki. --Dystopos 09:08, 15 March 2009 (PDT)
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